Studio8 - Uniting the Arts

i miss the darkness, too.

here's part of a story that talks about this subject (written ten or more years ago):

"(...) I go outside to get the milk from the farm. It is dark. It is good to be outside in the night. I walk quickly because I want to get away from the lighted areas as soon as possible ...

the roaming horde
of iced leaves
has been braked by wires
over the fire pit

the woman
sits beside the cart
in the shelter of
the roving canvas
the sleeping child
wrapped up
at her feet

she is lifting
a young dog
from the sheepskin
up to her breast
and by nursing it
she feeds the hungry
wind in the ...

jack? what are you sorry for? no need to be sorry for anything!!!

I'm not trying to answer for Kurt, of course. He can answer himself. I just thought about your question, Panta, and decided to present my thoughts. In my opinion, the situation in the MIddle East definitely does affect the entire world.


ok, so what you are saying, basically, is that the effects ...

kurt - how does it hold the rest of us in limbo? how does it affect you and me other than by making us think and talk about it?

and also, as i've said before, in my opinion this conflict is not about god but about identity and territory. for some, religion is a part of their identity - for others ...

@doreen:
there was the united nations partition plan for palestine in '47, then (fast forward) there were other attempts, such as oslo and camp david, without the UN involved. then, 2002, the road map to peace by the madrid quartet (UN, EU,US, Russia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartet_for_the ...

are you referring to the 2002 road map for peace? yes, i agree - "a secure State of israel and a viable, peaceful, democratic palestine"....

good idea. now, how to get those involved to agree upon it??

...and thanks as well, doreen, for staying in this, and for providing your space for us all to ...

and p.s.:

maybe what i would wish for is that you ( and others) were not only shouting out how wrong the current situation for the palestinians is (which is is! no doubt about that!!!). i would also like to hear you shout out about how wrong the present situation for israelis is - how it seems ...

Doreen Peri wrote: I'll repeat that both sides who have engaged in violence are WRONG. Both sides have blood on their hands. I believe this because I believe war is wrong. Violence is wrong. I'm a pacifist. I can't help it. I stand by my ideals.

again, i totally agree.

I believe the human race can evolve to be peaceful and until we BELIEVE we can be peaceful, it will will never happen. So, I decide to BELIEVE it.

i totally agree with you, doreen. and i wasn't specifically referring to you in my previous post. it is a general problem that too many people express ...

yes to what artguy says - there needs to be a two-state solution. hard long way to figure out the necessary terms and solutions of that, though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Palestinian_state

and doreen, what jack is saying regarding the bias of most websites on that topic is ...

Panta... I understand it's complicated. That's why I was so pleased to find that website which is very informative. Yes, they've simplified it some, however, there is a LOT of information on that site and many links to explore. There's a lot of history presented and I like the site a lot ...

doreen, i can only repeat myself - the definition of palestine and palestinians (and the whole rest of the conflict) it is not as simple you you wish it to be (and as many others wish as well, including me, because a clear scheme of who is in the right and who is in the wrong would make things much ...

jack, i think i understood you perfectly even without emoticon!