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This is more like it

Post by stilltrucking » September 5th, 2011, 4:06 pm

Obama Calls On G.O.P to Put Country First

Obama Challenges Congress in Labor Day Speech
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 5, 2011 at 3:25 PM ET

.DETROIT (AP) — President Barack Obama said Monday that congressional Republicans must put their country ahead of their party and vote to create new jobs as he used a boisterous Labor Day rally to aim a partisan barb at the GOP.

In a preview of the jobs speech he will deliver on Thursday to Congress, Obama said there are numerous roads and bridges that need rebuilding in the U.S., and over 1 million unemployed construction workers who are available to build them.

Citing massive federal budget deficits, Republicans have expressed opposition to spending vast new sums on jobs programs. But Obama said that with widespread suffering, "the time for Washington games is over" and lawmakers must move quickly to create jobs.

"But we're not going wait for them," he said at an annual event sponsored by the Metropolitan Detroit AFL-CIO. "We're going to see if we've got some straight shooters in Congress. We're going to see if congressional Republicans will put country before party."

Obama's remarks came as he has been under heavy criticism from the GOP for presiding over a persistently weak economy and high unemployment. Last Friday's dismal jobs report showed that employers added no jobs in August, the first time since 1945 that the government reported a net job change of zero. The unemployment rate, meanwhile, held steady at 9.1 percent.

Congress returns from its summer recess this week, with the faltering economy and job market promising to be a dominant theme of the session. The economy is all but certain to also be the top issue of the 2012 presidential and congressional elections.

Throughout the speech, the union crowd kept chanting "four more years."

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Post by mtmynd » September 6th, 2011, 8:49 am

I'm actually looking forward to two political happenings this week - Obama's speech and the GOP Presidential debates. I hope I'm not disappointed.
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Post by stilltrucking » September 6th, 2011, 9:25 am

I am sure you will be entertained by both events.

Interesting movie called Inside Job, I liked this bit:
"After the cold war ended the physicists and mathematicians decided to put their skills to work in the financial services industry.
making algorithms for the derrivatives market
Weapons of mass destruction warren buffet called them"
quoted from memory

Inside Job (2010) is a documentary film about the late-2000s financial crisis directed by Charles H. Ferguson. The film was screened at the 2010 Cannes Film Festival in May and won the 2010 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature.
Ferguson has described the film as being about "the systemic corruption of the United States by the financial services industry and the consequences of that systemic corruption."[3] In five parts, the film explores how changes in the policy environment and banking practices helped create the financial crisis. Inside Job was well received by film critics who praised its pacing, research, and exposition of complex material.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_(film)
Obama is an insider too.
There is a psychological problem among baby boomers. They are invested, psychologically, in the present bankrupt financial system. They own stocks or similar instruments. Obama is blocking prosecution of the bankers because, to his way of thinking,…
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Post by jackofnightmares » September 8th, 2011, 4:57 pm

October 12, 2008
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
The Rise of the Machines
By RICHARD DOOLING
Omaha


“BEWARE of geeks bearing formulas.”
So saith Warren Buffett, the Wizard of Omaha.Words to bear in mind as we bail out banks and buy up mortgages and tweak interest rates and nothing, nothing seems to make any difference onWall Street or Main Street. Years ago,Mr. Buffett called derivatives “weapons of financial mass destruction” — an apt metaphor considering that the Manhattan Project’smath and physics geeks bearing formulas brought us the original weapon of mass destruction, at Trinity in New Mexico on July 16, 1945.

In a 1981 documentary called “The Day After Trinity,” Freeman Dyson, a reigning gray eminence of math and theoretical physics, as well as an ardent proponent of nuclear disarmament, described the seductive power that
brought us the ability to create atomic energy out of nothing. “I have felt itmyself,” he warned.
“The glitter of nuclear weapons. It is irresistible if you come to them as a scientist. To feel it’s there in your hands, to release this energy that fuels the stars, to let it do your bidding. To perform these miracles, to lift a million tons of rock into the sky. It is something that gives people an illusion of illimitable power, and it is, in some ways, responsible for all our troubles — this, what you might call technical arrogance, that overcomes people when they see what they can do with their minds.”
The Wall Street geeks, the quantitative analysts (“quants”) and masters of “algo trading” probably felt the same irresistible lure of “illimitable power” when they discovered “evolutionary algorithms” that allowed them to create
vast empires of wealth by deriving the dependence structures of portfolio credit derivatives. What does that mean? You’ll never know. Over and over again, financial experts and wonkish talking heads endeavor to explain these mysterious, “toxic” financial instruments to us lay folk. Over and over, they ignobly fail, because we all know that no one understands credit default obligations and derivatives, except perhaps Mr. Buffett and the computers who created them.

Somehow the genius quants — the best and brightest geeksWall Street firms could buy — fed $1 trillion in subprime mortgage debt into their supercomputers, added some derivatives, massaged the arrangements with computer algorithms and — poof! — created $62 trillion in imaginary wealth. It’s not much of a stretch to imagine that all of that imaginary wealth is locked up somewhere inside the computers, and that we humans, led by the silverback males of the financial world, Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson, are frantically beseeching the monolith for answers. Or maybe we are lost in space, with Dave the astronaut pleading, “Open the bank vault doors, Hal.”

As the current financial crisis spreads (like a computer virus) on the earth’s nervous system (the Internet), it’s worth asking if we have somehow managed to colossally outsmart ourselves using computers. After all, the Wall Street titans loved swaps and derivatives because they were totally unregulated by humans. That left nobody but the machines in charge.

How fitting then, that almost 30 years after Freeman Dyson described the almost unspeakable urges of the nuclear geeks creating illimitable energy out of equations, his son, George Dyson, has written an essay (published
at Edge.org) warning about a different strain of technical arrogance that has brought the entire planet to the brink of financial destruction. George Dyson is an historian of technology and the author of “Darwin Among the Machines,” a book that warned us a decade ago that it was only a matter of time before technology out-evolves us and takes over.

His new essay — “Economic Dis-Equilibrium: Can You Have Your House and Spend It Too?” — begins with a history of “stock,” originally a stick of hazel, willow or alder wood, inscribed with notches indicating monetary amounts and dates.When funds were transferred, the stick was split into identical halves — with one side going to the depositor and the other to the party safeguarding the money — and represented proof positive that gold had been deposited somewhere to back it up. That was good enough for 600 years, until we decided that we needed more speed and efficiency.

Making money, it seems, is all about the velocity of moving it around, so that it can exist in Hong Kong one moment and Wall Street a split second later. “The unlimited replication of information is generally a public good,” eorge Dyson writes. “The problem starts, as the current crisis demonstrates, when unregulated replication is applied to money itself. Highly complex computer-generated financial instruments (known as derivatives) are
being produced, not from natural factors of production or other goods, but purely from other financial instruments.”

It was easy enough for us humans to understand a stick or a dollar bill when it was backed by something tangible somewhere, but only computers can understand and derive a correlation structure from observed collateralized
debt obligation tranche spreads.Which leads us to the next question: Just how much of the world’s financial stability now lies in the “hands” of computerized trading algorithms?

Here’s a frightening party trick that I learned from the futurist Ray Kurzweil. Read this excerpt and then I’ll tell you who wrote it:

But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power.What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. ... Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.
Brace yourself. It comes from the Unabomber’s manifesto.
Yes, Theodore Kaczynski was a homicidal psychopath and a paranoid kook, but he was also a bloodhound when it
came to scenting all of the horrors technology holds in store for us. Hence his mission to kill technologists before
machines commenced what he believed would be their inevitable reign of terror.
"Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect" Santayana The Idea of Christ in the Gospels

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Post by jackofnightmares » September 8th, 2011, 4:58 pm

continued cutting and pasting
We are living, we have long been told, in the Information Age. Yet now we are faced with the sickening suspicion that technology has run ahead of us.Man is a fire-stealing animal, and we can’t help buildingmachines and machine intelligences, even if, from time to time, we use them not only to outsmart ourselves but to bring us right up to the doorstep of Doom.

We are still fearful, superstitious and all-too-human creatures. At times, we forget the magnitude of the havoc we can wreak by off-loading our minds onto super-intelligent machines, that is, until they run away from us, like mad
sorcerers’ apprentices, and drag us up to the precipice for a look down into the abyss. As the financial experts all over the world use machines to unwind Gordian knots of financial arrangements so complex that only machines can make — “derive” — and trade them, we have to wonder: Are we living in a bad
sci-fi movie? Is the Matrix made of credit default swaps?

When Treasury Secretary Paulson (looking very much like a frightened primate) came to Congress seeking an emergency loan, Senator Jon Tester of Montana, a Democrat still living on his family homestead, asked him: “I’m
a dirt farmer.Why do we have one week to determine that $700 billion has to be appropriated or this country’s financial system goes down the pipes?”

“Well, sir,” Mr. Paulson could well have responded, “the computers have demanded it.”
Richard Dooling is the author of “Rapture for the Geeks:When A.I. Outsmarts I.Q.”
"Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect" Santayana The Idea of Christ in the Gospels

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Post by Arcadia » September 8th, 2011, 9:02 pm

I just listened to Obama while having dinner, it sounded good for you! :) From here, of course, some dissonances appear (I have to say that listening to Obama is almost a sport-task for me, listening to my own president it´s the real-thing ... :roll: ).

. the "politic circus" mention: what about international affairs politic circus??, well, I know, it wasn´t the speech topic...
. the "re-build USA" topic near the anniversary of september the 11th is a strong image!
. justice & security the nation pillars
. "it´s not about politics or some class thing it´s simple aritmetics"
. "we are the first, the most important ones, blah blah, god save America.."
. there wasn´t a mention about the "economic global crisis"

maybe he doesn´t need to make a plesbicito at all...! :lol:

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Post by stilltrucking » September 8th, 2011, 11:17 pm

I think of the trillions of dollars spent on our endless wars and wonder if that has anything to do with our perdicament?


No one mentions 9/11/2001 as a cause of our ecconomic woes. I wonder why?

Thanks for reading, I wish I was in Argentia, I want to be a Patagonian. That is how I feel, how I see the the United States, with the eyes of a Patagonian.

Pain has no more secret receses.
….let us try to look at it with the eyes of a Patagonian for whom all that is sacred and taboo in our world is meaningless.
Anais Nin Preface to Tropic of Cancer 1934
No body even talks about the war anymore, we need jobs, jobs jobs, we need to keep busy buy more stuff, sell more stuff, keep the wheels of industry turning. That's progress.

yes god bless america the greatest nation on earth
and while god is at it
let god bless war too

rant rant rant :oops:
where the hell is my sense of humor
the circus is supposed to be fun
sorry
I need a new algorithm I suppose.
We lost the war on terror
but maybe we will have better luck in the next war
getting hard to tell where one war ends and the next begins.
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