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mnaz
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Back to Death Valley

Post by mnaz » May 16th, 2024, 2:01 am

When I go back to Death Valley
on the LA side, even a hundred miles out,
the ghosts speak louder each time; I hear
the living dead earth rattling along faults,
lost gold legends and haunted mineshafts.
Manson looking for a door to the underworld.
Sorcerers and shamans onto something new.
Hippies on a break between world wars.
Politicians still masturbating to power.
California still dreamin'.
The usual.

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by winddance » May 17th, 2024, 10:48 am

ghosts that rise
on heat wave mirages
wait for years
to go for a swim
in a ghost lake
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach 10,000 stars how not to dance.
e e cummings

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by mnaz » May 18th, 2024, 9:19 am

old frontier ghosts watching.
wild burros standing dead still,
frozen on a dry lake shimmer,
no longer ridden by jackass miners.

old mining canyons, gulches,
cabin ruins, old timers all gone,
slow digs replaced by brute power,
big brute machines mauling hillsides.

ah,
but you can't go back, can't go back,
to those days of wide open freedom.
the desert has changed.

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by saw » May 20th, 2024, 9:43 am

the old west has always intrigued me
the rushes to the west to stake your claim
the mad panning for gold. the saloons
the spirit pioneers.....I love McMurtry and the others
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by mnaz » May 31st, 2024, 12:54 pm

I'm still kinda blown away that a guy who once lived at the same camp I lived at for a while is rumored to be the real-life inspiration for "Don Juan" (of Yaqui teachings) in that 1968 book by Carlos Casteneda. Apparently, he and Casteneda were colleagues at UCLA at the time. Amazing. (Though of course, no one really knows the story behind this character.)

And apparently, the story about Manson looking for a door to the underworld (in geologic rifts and hot springs) is true.

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by saw » June 7th, 2024, 6:01 pm

wow...cool info
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Re: Back to Death Valley

Post by winddance » June 9th, 2024, 10:39 am

spent a whole year after I read the don Juan books trying to achieve the first step of dreaming (looking at my hands) never did it. I thought since I was such a vivid dreamer , it would be a great way to travel.
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing than teach 10,000 stars how not to dance.
e e cummings

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