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revolutionR
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human being

Post by revolutionR » March 24th, 2017, 7:17 pm

I read Being and Nothingness by Sartre
and Being and Time by Heidegger
or I tried to read, some of
about existentialist philosophy
I really had to really try to understand
Heidegger was more difficult
I forced myself to read
I liked his books on Nietzsche
I could understand better
the word being is a philosophical term
that we humans have being
we be so then we are
this is why a poet is
it is the meaning of being human
that we have consciousness
that we are tossed into this world
Heidegger described this as our human
being experience, this sense of being tossed
into the human condition, like Nietzsche
said, human all too human, we have a sense
of what it means to be a human being
we perceive that there is a perception
a poet explores language by comparing
the meaning of being to what language
tells us, like Bukowski wrote, born into this
we are born into this world, such as it is
it is our being and nothingness
it is being in time, this is human
this is what a poet senses all this human suffering
this strange world we are thrown into
the conditions of existence, the poet looks for
the other, that which is of the nothingness
the meaning of man, being born into this
this shock of bursting out of the womb
into the agony of living in the world as it is
the have to deal with reality of this to exist
we sense this we feel the split in our senses
this is what makes human this is being
we are born into this" blooming buzzing confusion"
Freud talked of the pathology of everyday psychology
what a human being must endure to be human
the more sane you are the more you are human
but if we live in an insane world, then normality is insane
this is what the poet comes into, born into this;
" as the chalk faces smile, as misses death laughs
as political landscapes dissolve.... " Bukowski
as Camus said "every ideology is contrary to
human psychology"

this means the prevailing currant ideology is anti human
it wants to completely remove what makes us human
which is our being, our sense of self, what we bring
into this world to confront existence, our very beingness
the poet has an impossible task to announce the absurd

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Re: human being

Post by saw » March 27th, 2017, 9:17 am

when ideology is the only thing that matters, and facts don't...that is the new normal for half the country....economic woes will fuck up your head....when the prez condemns the fourth estate ( the media ) he is trying to create a new reality by planting the idea that all news is fake, and only I am telling the truth...this demagogue has followers...when respect and manners don't mean anything any longer, society is raveling ....the new norm ?.....lets hope not
If you do not change your direction
you may end up where you are heading

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Re: human being

Post by stilltrucking » March 27th, 2017, 10:35 am

Never can think about Heidegger with out thinking of Hannah Arendt
and I remember yes he was probably rigtht about the Jews, not quite human but he had eyes for Jewessess

Dont mean nothing enjoyed reading your poem 8)

Saw I never understand that last fifty years stuff

Woodrow Wilson was where it started for me. Only thing worse this time is the nukes, was not an option in 1917. It is now, or so it seems to Trumpism. I love isms always happy to find a new one :wink:

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Re: human being

Post by stilltrucking » March 27th, 2017, 10:46 am

Sorry it does mean something
What it means to me is
inspiration for a jam
highly personal reaction
and I am grateful you wrote the poem
because these days I need all the inspiration I can find
thank you Herr revolutionR 8)

Re Heidegger
Nihilism and Technology: A Heideggerian Investigation
I been checking that out but hard going for me to read anything by or about Heideggerian, but maybe sometimes the hippies were right, take the best and leave the rest.

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Re: human being

Post by revolutionR » March 27th, 2017, 1:25 pm

If you did not already know the mainstream media was mostly fake you sure did not need the Trump to tell you, yes I agree this is being used to further fake us out.

I read Sartre in the seventies, I tried to read Being and Time by Heidegger in the eighties, I don't know the relevance of Sartre or Heidegger these days, and I read a lot of other philosophers, Like a said in the poem, I liked Heidegger's three books on Nietzsche, which I read in the early eighties. It is just that the seventies and eighties were a very different time, in those days before the internet. Things have changed so much since the pre-internet days, I don't think people think about philosophy like they use to, I use to like Frank Zappa, he was always trying to tell us how stupid people are, the point is the powers that be have been doing
every thing they can to keep us stupid, like Frank said "the schools that do not teach"

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Re: human being

Post by mnaz » March 29th, 2017, 3:19 am

Insane vs. sane. Normal vs... the not.
Up, down, lateral, which is which?
The Big Buzz will tell us.

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