oh...I don't know
I'll leave it up to you
(I'm joking)
I'm not good at prayers
but I liked Anna Frank's quotation (cita?) in Vonnegut's Mother Night
The Perpetual Peace Jam!
well i came back to delete
the scream
to late
yet
it's never to late
we will not give up
staying the course towards peace
raise th main sail
o'er th seven seas
poets for peace
from th 4 corners of th world
an you gave it a sail
what was needed
take heed
ye seafarers
explorers
there will be a dawning
an awakening
so i scream a great cheer
there will be a peace
as never before.
arrrrr!
shiver me timburrz!
the scream
to late
yet
it's never to late
we will not give up
staying the course towards peace
raise th main sail
o'er th seven seas
poets for peace
from th 4 corners of th world
an you gave it a sail
what was needed
take heed
ye seafarers
explorers
there will be a dawning
an awakening
so i scream a great cheer
there will be a peace
as never before.
arrrrr!
shiver me timburrz!
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[color=darkcyan]i'm on a survival mission
yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]
yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]
Achieving peace (and not trashing the environment completely) are up against some pretty tall odds. There is so much negative momentum and selfishness or apathy, as Doreen points out. It's a plague on the earth, one that seems impossible to cure entirely. I think the best we can hope for is to reduce the amount and effects of this plague, to slowly evolve.... Will we evolve quickly enough or find more collective enlightenment before complete meltdown? Good question.
Despite my negative comments in this jam, never let it be said that I don't care. If anything, I care too damn much. Maybe there's a lot more we all could be doing toward the cause of peace. Maybe not. Sometimes we feel like we're up against a runaway freight train, with the government starting illegal wars, getting involved in torture, shredding the Constitution, and stealing elections. And when we see our jets and bombs, paid for with our taxes, dropped time and time again on ordinary people in poor countries far away, it can overwhelm. Sometimes I hit compassion fatigue and shut down for awhile. Other times, a slow-burn builds up inside.
I never voted for a violent agenda. I argued against the invasion of Iraq from Day One, all over the internet. I never consented to have this blood on my hands. Or did I? Some would say I'm complicit by continuing to live here and pay taxes. Perhaps I shouldn't pay, and risk prison for the cause.... Doubtful. I was here first, before these warmongering assholes. They should leave, not I. They should be imprisoned, not I.
What the flag-waving, God-and-country folks must figure out is that not all war is created equal. At least that would be a good start. The military families, the "backbone of the nation" must realize at some point that they're being pimped for the cause of high-level corruption and unnecessary wars of corporate profiteering, dressed up in all kinds of noble-sounding packaging. Until that happens, it will be difficult to make any real progress from our end.
The last 100 years have been a particularly horrific recurring nightmare of militarized manifesto; the violence and evil and potential for world annihilation exploded off the charts. It was an opportunity to learn, to have it sink in-- never again. But 'never again' loses its grip over a few generations. When you consider the massive atrocity of World War 2, maybe some progress has been made. And many (such as knip) point out that weapons are now more precise, or "smarter", and that fewer innocents are killed in modern "conflicts". Yeah well, maybe. And even if true, so what? Fewer errant bombs stretched out over endless militarized imperial misadventure still adds up to sizable atrocity.
Anyway, it's getting late. But I do care. I just thought you should know.
Despite my negative comments in this jam, never let it be said that I don't care. If anything, I care too damn much. Maybe there's a lot more we all could be doing toward the cause of peace. Maybe not. Sometimes we feel like we're up against a runaway freight train, with the government starting illegal wars, getting involved in torture, shredding the Constitution, and stealing elections. And when we see our jets and bombs, paid for with our taxes, dropped time and time again on ordinary people in poor countries far away, it can overwhelm. Sometimes I hit compassion fatigue and shut down for awhile. Other times, a slow-burn builds up inside.
I never voted for a violent agenda. I argued against the invasion of Iraq from Day One, all over the internet. I never consented to have this blood on my hands. Or did I? Some would say I'm complicit by continuing to live here and pay taxes. Perhaps I shouldn't pay, and risk prison for the cause.... Doubtful. I was here first, before these warmongering assholes. They should leave, not I. They should be imprisoned, not I.
What the flag-waving, God-and-country folks must figure out is that not all war is created equal. At least that would be a good start. The military families, the "backbone of the nation" must realize at some point that they're being pimped for the cause of high-level corruption and unnecessary wars of corporate profiteering, dressed up in all kinds of noble-sounding packaging. Until that happens, it will be difficult to make any real progress from our end.
The last 100 years have been a particularly horrific recurring nightmare of militarized manifesto; the violence and evil and potential for world annihilation exploded off the charts. It was an opportunity to learn, to have it sink in-- never again. But 'never again' loses its grip over a few generations. When you consider the massive atrocity of World War 2, maybe some progress has been made. And many (such as knip) point out that weapons are now more precise, or "smarter", and that fewer innocents are killed in modern "conflicts". Yeah well, maybe. And even if true, so what? Fewer errant bombs stretched out over endless militarized imperial misadventure still adds up to sizable atrocity.
Anyway, it's getting late. But I do care. I just thought you should know.
desert jazz from mnazzz
co·gent blues
tan·gen·tial huez
an infrastructure of understanding
smooth edgy
ele·gi·ac visions
co·gent blues
tan·gen·tial huez
an infrastructure of understanding
smooth edgy
ele·gi·ac visions
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Thank you, mnaz. That was brilliantly stated.
On that note, since we all quite obviously care very very much, it's time to close this jam up since it's already run overtime.
What did we accomplish? Well I don't know about the rest of you but I sure accomplished a helluva lot of thinking about the possibility or impossibility of peace on this planet.
I've gained a lot more respect for peace just from interracting with all of you about it.
If you want this Jam to be an ongoing event, I can move it to the GO forum and reopen it. Just let me know OK?
Thank you all for participating! It was enlightening.... truly!
Love to all.
On that note, since we all quite obviously care very very much, it's time to close this jam up since it's already run overtime.
What did we accomplish? Well I don't know about the rest of you but I sure accomplished a helluva lot of thinking about the possibility or impossibility of peace on this planet.
I've gained a lot more respect for peace just from interracting with all of you about it.
If you want this Jam to be an ongoing event, I can move it to the GO forum and reopen it. Just let me know OK?
Thank you all for participating! It was enlightening.... truly!
Love to all.
cotext, context or something...?
a ver... "daba cabida"
first of all it's in past time
(imperfect)
third person of the singular
to give space or place to something
to allow something (a fact, an attitude, most of the time in relation with other or others) to happen
Example:
A: Con lo que estas haciendo das cabida a la paz?
B: Que????
Other example:
B: Creo que yo te estoy dando cabida a que vos digas lo que estas diciendo...
A: Ah... si?, no me digas!.
a ver... "daba cabida"
first of all it's in past time
(imperfect)
third person of the singular
to give space or place to something
to allow something (a fact, an attitude, most of the time in relation with other or others) to happen
Example:
A: Con lo que estas haciendo das cabida a la paz?
B: Que????
Other example:
B: Creo que yo te estoy dando cabida a que vos digas lo que estas diciendo...
A: Ah... si?, no me digas!.
i got really high on that jam
felt complete
something good happened
she believes she is giving space to what you say that which you are saying
you don'tsay!
at least there is peace in la paz
buenas noches
i am back in th jewel mine
in th morning
hi ho
i ain't no pussy
i ain't no dick
remember 9-11?
stuck inside of baghdad
with th osama bin laden blues again
i need a new idea for a protest sign
for 9-11 demo
BUSHWHACKED
(remember 9-11?)
felt complete
something good happened
she believes she is giving space to what you say that which you are saying
you don'tsay!
at least there is peace in la paz
buenas noches
i am back in th jewel mine
in th morning
hi ho
i ain't no pussy
i ain't no dick
remember 9-11?
stuck inside of baghdad
with th osama bin laden blues again
i need a new idea for a protest sign
for 9-11 demo
BUSHWHACKED
(remember 9-11?)
[color=darkcyan]i'm on a survival mission
yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]
yo ho ho an a bottle of rum om[/color]
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Join the PFP
Pussies for Peace
NOw there is a group I can get behind.
I think I have Pre Traumatic Stress Syndrome
"I am the pyschiatrist for a group of American combat veterans of the Vietnam War who have severe, chronic post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). A number of years ago I was struck by the similarity of their war experiences to Homer's account of Achilles in the Illiad."
ACHILLES IN VIETNAM--Johnathan Shay, M.D. Ph.D
Remember Osama?
He is a speach writer now
He feeds Bush his best lines
Remember 9/11?
Of course I remember 9/11
Who can forget?
It is Jamelah's birthday.
I can't tell you how much better I am for knowing you jim
Dr Shay's book is helping me too
No shit I think there is such a thing as pre traumatic stress syndrome
I have had it ever since I saw those black and white news reels from the trenches of World War One.
peace out sweet prince
my amigo
Pussies for Peace
NOw there is a group I can get behind.
I think I have Pre Traumatic Stress Syndrome
"I am the pyschiatrist for a group of American combat veterans of the Vietnam War who have severe, chronic post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). A number of years ago I was struck by the similarity of their war experiences to Homer's account of Achilles in the Illiad."
ACHILLES IN VIETNAM--Johnathan Shay, M.D. Ph.D
Remember Osama?
He is a speach writer now
He feeds Bush his best lines
Remember 9/11?
Of course I remember 9/11
Who can forget?
It is Jamelah's birthday.
I can't tell you how much better I am for knowing you jim
Dr Shay's book is helping me too
No shit I think there is such a thing as pre traumatic stress syndrome
I have had it ever since I saw those black and white news reels from the trenches of World War One.
peace out sweet prince
my amigo
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