... I truly believe she (Hester) has a very wry sense of humor and she was just playing around. I can't speak for her, of course, but knowing her heart and her values and also her style of quips and humor, I'd really say she was just probably sitting there laughing making humor of "old bitties" and calling herself one, too -- Doreen
Well ...making humor of... can also mean: poking fun (at), making fun (of), and it's something we all do at times. And sometimes, it offends.
... I also think that sometimes it's easy to not catch humor in the wording.- Doreen
And sometimes some jokes just aren't funny. And sometimes the words can be so pointed as to overshadow the humor. And sometimes the humor can be hidden so well that's it's almost impossible to see. And sometimes it can be the wrong joke for the wrong crowd at the wrong time.
If Hester's comment was meant to be humorous, then I missed it.
Here's the thing ...
"Yo, bitch!" would be one example that has a limited playing audience that I can come up with. With this in mind, I have to explain that it's unacceptable to call any woman a 'ho' a 'bitch' or 'an old bag' or 'an old bitty' .... and while I understand that others do call themselves that as a joke from time to time (and I'm no exception) ... there is a difference between me calling myself those things and me saying them about someone else.
I love Hester too, but her reply took me aback, I felt it was caustic towards Kelly and the reds hats and they didn't deserve that.
All we have is text in this medium. That's the tough part. I read between the lines all the time and then I have to try to catch myself and say to myself, "maybe he or she didn't mean it the way I was taking it." - Doreen
Okay, this is an old arguement -- and it worked well when message boards were new, but now it doesn't fly because people aren't new to this medium any longer.
Reading and writing between the lines does nothing more than create guessing games. Games where it as easy to guess incorrectly as it is to be guessing correctly; games where you can guess correctly and still be told you're guessing wrong and they didn’t mean it that way at all if they should change thier minds after the fact; and games where they could be telling you they really didn't mean it that way at all and be telling the truth but it's not so hard to see because the truth is hidden too deeply "between the lines."
All of which can be cleared up and/or not created in the first place with clearer, direct writing with nothing left "between the lines" to get all muddled up. Because as you say ... this is a tough medium, and all of us using this medium know better by now.
Deb, you're a beautiful lady with a very tender heart! Thank you! - Doreen
Thank you, Doreen. That's how I see you as well.
I'm not jumping in on this thread as a so-called "administrator" only as a friend and another old bitty who sometimes likes to speak my mind and wants everybody to love each other. ((((hugs))))) -- Doreen
{{{Hugs}}} back at ya, with you ~ and thank you, they feel great.
And I love Hester too. My speaking out of what I think and why, to me, isn't a showing a lack of love or caring, but more of a showing that I do (care). If this were Eric or Calvin saying this to Kelly ~ I'd be on their asses too. If I didn't care, I wouldn't bother.
Speaking of everyone loving each other ...
Heck, I even love ST [believe that or not!] but not all his aliases - and that should be very well known by now as I've said that plainly often enough.
I also found I loved Kelly and the red hats as well, and when I think someone's dis'n um ... well, what you see is what you get.